Where do the channel 8 9pm show get their guns?

[jiajun_lim]

yea,the precautions are necessary,but they dun pay to get the license right?

for this, im not sure. u have to check with them.

[bas]

i guess the cost of them acquiring the arms n explosive license and transporting them for your use is absorbed into your rental fee

[desmondyap999]

not easy to get the a&e license. the very first criteria is a approved armoury to store those guns.

anyway hor, props gun are made of resin or real de-activated gun.
it can take hard knocks . if you rent your BT guns, you think it will come back in one piece ? i dont think so

[bas]

haha oh yes i forgot the armoury. then it costs money for armed escort too.

[edwinckk1977]

Some of the non-movable props or in holsters uses this.



http://www.liangseng.com/product_detail.asp?ItemSID=18980&CatSID=42#

[edwinckk1977]

hey guys! check this out:

http://www.16by9productions.sg/16by9wp.html

WTF... Might as well as their customers to buy from Dragon. So expensive and cannot keep some more.

Totally not recommended. Lucky my friend (play producer) approached me for help than being a radish head.

[Revolver]

are u gonna be responsible if they rent to individual without supervision and the person use the fake weapons to commit crimes

I didnt say the weapon props supervisor is not needed.

Firstly , i feel that they are over doing it. The replica weapons on their website are obviously from BT or rather all of them are plastic. Non of it are even resin model.

Secondly , price is too much.


Maybe there is a licence you have to get in order to film these in the public.
Under the entertainment licence. Asked the A&E before.

[Brandon]

WTF... Might as well as their customers to buy from Dragon. So expensive and cannot keep some more.

Totally not recommended. Lucky my friend (play producer) approached me for help than being a radish head.

radish head hokkien = kan cai tou?

[Revolver]

haha oh yes i forgot the armoury. then it costs money for armed escort too.

these doesn't need armed escort.

So those professional cosplayers with weapon must have a secured armoury? I dont think so.

[edwinckk1977]

radish head hokkien = kan cai tou?

Yeap

[bas]

I didnt say the weapon props supervisor is not needed.

Firstly , i feel that they are over doing it. The replica weapons on their website are obviously from BT or rather all of them are plastic. Non of it are even resin model.

Secondly , price is too much.


Maybe there is a licence you have to get in order to film these in the public.
Under the entertainment licence. Asked the A&E before.

there is no point complaining because they have the right to set whatever price they want. after all this is still a niche market and toy replica firearms are still generally shunned upon by majority of the public.  like you say it is plastic, so their cost probably covers possible damage to the replicas since all these plastic toys are spoilt easily.

from my past experience, my extras wrecked about 8 P22s, 1 m90 shotgun and 1 M4, all of which were owned by me, just in one single 6 hour night shoot alone, and all they needed to do was point the guns.

these doesn't need armed escort.

So those professional cosplayers with weapon must have a secured armoury? I dont think so.

cosplay and filming are two different fields of play entirely. cosplayers transport the most 2 weapons per individual to a cosplay event where everyone is understood to be playing a specific role in their specific costume. the public will not be alarmed to see a single gun-wielding person or a whole swat team in the location if they know of a cosplay event happening in the vicinity.

for cases of filming, multiple (from 2-3 to even 10-20) weapons are transported at the same time, to a specified location where a simulated scene, e.g. a gunfight, a raid, a terrorist attack, will take place, and due to the fact that Singapore filmmakers seldom make use of filming notices because Singaporeans just simply don't care to read them, the public is not well-informed of the event taking place and might raise the alarm. thus things like licenses, informing the cops, getting approval all come into play. with all these, you need 1 thing. Money.

fyi, for my night shoot at F1 pit straight, we requested permission to cordon off the entire area for the night, and police came twice. the first time, they stumbled upon us, the second time, they just wanted to see if everything was going well.

you may not think an armed escort is required, but if the whole lot of guns go missing and a bank is robbed by a group using realistic-looking toy firearms and costumes the next day, who is going to answer?

i see you want to make short films using the toy firearms, police scenarios, etc etc. my advice for you is don't assume. double check, check again. check one more time just to make sure. cover your ass, seek the right permission and approval before you do anything. by doing all this, i had full cooperation from all parties involved, without even seeking budget from the government setup film commission. SPF, STB, PUB all showed their support for the film, which unfortunately collapsed due to budgeting and cast commitment issues.

[edwinckk1977]

Wow... Understood... Must listen to the experience person.

Don't "pray pray" eh.

[jiajun_lim]

there is no point complaining because they have the right to set whatever price they want. after all this is still a niche market and toy replica firearms are still generally shunned upon by majority of the public.  like you say it is plastic, so their cost probably covers possible damage to the replicas since all these plastic toys are spoilt easily.

from my past experience, my extras wrecked about 8 P22s, 1 m90 shotgun and 1 M4, all of which were owned by me, just in one single 6 hour night shoot alone, and all they needed to do was point the guns.

cosplay and filming are two different fields of play entirely. cosplayers transport the most 2 weapons per individual to a cosplay event where everyone is understood to be playing a specific role in their specific costume. the public will not be alarmed to see a single gun-wielding person or a whole swat team in the location if they know of a cosplay event happening in the vicinity.

for cases of filming, multiple (from 2-3 to even 10-20) weapons are transported at the same time, to a specified location where a simulated scene, e.g. a gunfight, a raid, a terrorist attack, will take place, and due to the fact that Singapore filmmakers seldom make use of filming notices because Singaporeans just simply don't care to read them, the public is not well-informed of the event taking place and might raise the alarm. thus things like licenses, informing the cops, getting approval all come into play. with all these, you need 1 thing. Money.

fyi, for my night shoot at F1 pit straight, we requested permission to cordon off the entire area for the night, and police came twice. the first time, they stumbled upon us, the second time, they just wanted to see if everything was going well.

you may not think an armed escort is required, but if the whole lot of guns go missing and a bank is robbed by a group using realistic-looking toy firearms and costumes the next day, who is going to answer?

i see you want to make short films using the toy firearms, police scenarios, etc etc. my advice for you is don't assume. double check, check again. check one more time just to make sure. cover your ass, seek the right permission and approval before you do anything. by doing all this, i had full cooperation from all parties involved, without even seeking budget from the government setup film commission. SPF, STB, PUB all showed their support for the film, which unfortunately collapsed due to budgeting and cast commitment issues.

Sorry to interrupt, but well said, Basil. Revolver, no offence intended, but i think you should learn more from Basil because afterall he's more experienced

[barry]

Guess the price they charge cause they'll have to absorb the risk as basil has said..I can imagine how a misstep which lead to public panic can cause a hefty fine to the rental company.

But the words they use are alil overboard too.. -_- I almost thought they are renting out live weapons that fire blanks...so can understand revolver's reaction.

[Alwin]

Wow, Bas, so much money and a collapse in the end. So much admin.

So even seeking the SPF permission, it requires the filming party to pay too?

[bas]

no la seek their permission or what is just collaboration with PAD. all they want is for the police force to be portrayed faithfully and/or accurately. usually its those fellows you see whose names always appear in the crimewatch credits..  

and yes i did want to work with The Stunt Production before and the company presented their charges accordingly, inclusive of the hiring of the armed escort. anyone wants to take a look at the request form can juz look me up on msn

[Alwin]

no la seek their permission or what is just collaboration with PAD. all they want is for the police force to be portrayed faithfully and/or accurately. usually its those fellows you see whose names always appear in the crimewatch credits.. 

and yes i did want to work with The Stunt Production before and the company presented their charges accordingly, inclusive of the hiring of the armed escort. anyone wants to take a look at the request form can juz look me up on msn

Does it states the price? I am just curious as to amount of money required to do as such.

[bravo20]

Wow. Bas really makes the points. I have a question though, regarding armed escort. Are they really necessary for replica weapons? I know licenses and stuff and approved armoury are pretty much the norm for weapons (once again, we did all those nonsense for Air Rifle back then) but we never needed an armed escort party to bring our weapons out of the range. Then again, they were all kept in secure gun cases and never in view of anyone.

[bas]

dunno.. it's very subjective..depends on whether the company wants to play safe or not. perhaps the best people to enquire is A&E dept

[curse154]

If terrorists know of a cosplay event, they can infiltrate, bringing real guns and people would not notice it until they fire. Very dangerous sia.